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Why does this article say that the Nazis were right-wing?

Because that is the consensus of reliable sources, in this case historians and political scientists.

But the word "socialist" is right in their name!

Many political entities have names that can be misleading. Consider, for example, the Holy Roman Empire (a confederation of mainly German territories during the Middle Ages and the early modern period) and North Korea's official name, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (a totalitarian dictatorship). The usage of the word "socialism" by the Nazis is different from the common usage of the term "socialism" to refer to an economic philosophy involving advocacy for social ownership of the means of production. The phrase "national socialist" was a nationalist response to the rise of socialism in Europe by offering a redefinition of "socialism" to refer to the promotion of the interests of the nation, as opposed to ideas of individual self-interest. But there was no policy of social ownership of the means of production. The Nazis did talk about capitalism being bad, but they defined it as a Jewish-originated economic philosophy based on individualism that promoted plutocracy in the interest of the Jews, at the expense of non-Jewish nations and races. This was put in contrast to the Nazis' conception of socialism, which was done in order to win over people attracted to anti-capitalist and socialist ideas to their cause. They rejected ideas of equality and working class solidarity, instead advocating for social hierarchy and national strength. This article sums it up well.

I made an offhand comment about it and somebody just came along and deleted it! What should I do?

Nothing. See this discussion where the community came to a consensus that we have entertained the numerous questions and claims about the Nazis being left-wing enough, and that continued engagement with people pushing this line of reasoning is not helpful to the article.

That doesn't seem very fair. Don't Wikipedia policies require editors to assume good faith? What if somebody posts that position here with a really good argument?

See the following links, all of which are to discussions about this very question over time. If any novel argument is proposed, it has already been made, responded to and failed to convince anyone. [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13], [14], [15], [16], [17], [18], [19], [20], [21], [22], [23], [24], [25], [26], [27], [28]

But what if I find a large number of very reliable sources all claiming that Nazism is left-wing?

Then you will be more than welcome to show them to us, so that we can see that they are very reliable and that they assert that Nazism is a left-wing ideology. If they are, then we will change the article.

Nazism is a former featured article candidate. Please view the links under Article milestones below to see why the nomination was archived. For older candidates, please check the archive.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
August 6, 2004	Featured article candidate	Not promoted
July 11, 2005	Peer review	Reviewed

Current status: Former featured article candidate

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Nazism is a right-wing ideology.

The consensus of political scientists, historians, and other reliable sources is that Nazism is a right-wing ideology and not a left-wing one. This has been discussed numerous times. Please see this FAQ and read the talk page archives.

Please do not request that "right-wing" be changed to "left-wing"; your request will be denied, and you may be blocked from editing if you persist in doing so.

"Nazi Party" is the English-language common name for the National Socialist German Workers Party.

Per our policy, WP:COMMONNAME, English Wikipedia uses the common name in English for the titles of our articles, and in most references to that subject. Thus "Nazi Party" and "Nazism" are the names of our articles on those subjects, and in most instances the National Socialist German Workers Party is referred to as the Nazi Party, but occasionally, to avoid repetition, by the full English-language name, or by its German acronym, NSDAP.

Please do not request that the name of this article be changed, such requests are routinely turned down.

Section sizes

Section size for Nazism (28 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	11,974	11,974
Etymology	4,491	4,491
Position within the political spectrum	19,098	19,098
Origins	1,446	46,870
Völkisch nationalism	18,974	18,974
Racial theories and antisemitism	14,471	15,664
Use of the American racist model	1,193	1,193
Response to World War I and Italian Fascism	10,786	10,786
Ideology and programme	2,787	108,646
Nationalism and racialism	2,414	32,175
Irredentism and expansionism	11,285	11,285
Racial theories	18,476	18,476
Social class	10,770	10,770
Sex and gender	13,127	15,091
Opposition to homosexuality	1,964	1,964
Religion	9,647	9,647
Economics	15,434	30,860
Anti-communism	5,648	5,648
Views of capitalism	9,778	9,778
Totalitarianism	7,316	7,316
Classification: Reactionary or Revolutionary	7,575	16,275
Contemporary events and views	7,619	7,619
Post-war Nazism	1,081	1,081
See also	606	606
References	17	35,544
Notes	29,074	29,074
Bibliography	6,453	6,453
External links	1,448	1,448
Total	244,952	244,952

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Hermann Göring has an RfC

Hermann Göring has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Emiya1980 (talk) 02:49, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Picture missing from article

I stumbled across this article and noticed that when you hover over Nazism the picture of the Nazi flag is missing (it's present in the series of Nazism, but not for the article itself).

Is it okay if I add it?

P.S. I deeply apologize if this has already been discussed here, I currently don't see any mentions of it. Wikieditor662 (talk) 18:40, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is there in desktop view in the sidebar link spam banner..... I have added an option for mobile view. At the bottom of every page you'll see an option for mobile/desktop view.... is this the thing you had in mind? Moxy🍁 20:16, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, thank you, it works now. Wikieditor662 (talk) 20:44, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Context

Would it be better in the lede to have a clause before the Freikorps sentence that puts Nazism in the wider context of scientific racism and eugenics that were dominant in European academia during the 19th and early 20th centuries? Kowal2701 (talk) 21:04, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In the body, the first sentence of the origins section needs to be expanded on a little Kowal2701 (talk) 21:06, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]